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CAP Concept In Afghanistan
Tony Perry, LA Times, wrote about the use of Capt Bing West's book, The Village, in Afghanistan. With Mr. Perry's permission, I have converted the article to PDF format. You can download it at: The Village

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Remembering The Brave
CAP KIA Rosters
Submitted by Rick Schelberg, CAP 2-4-3.
Check out the Home Page...KIA rosters linked just above the CAP Indexes: CAP Web Site
Steve Cantonwine, CAP 1-1-3
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:03 PM
Subject: Steve's Cancer
Dear Friends and Family;
This is a hard day for KayAnne and I. I had a PET Scan on Monday and received the results today. My cancer has spread into both of my lungs. This is the first time it has showed up on the right side of my body. There are several tumors in each lung with the largest ones in each lung being about 1/4 of an inch. Just the fact that they are there is bad, but, the doc says they're in the periphial (outer edge) of the lungs and I shouldn't feel any symptoms for quite some time (a couple of years). They are inoperable and can't be treated with radiation. I will see my Oncologist, Dr Te on the 17th of August to try and decide if more Chemo or "Clinical Trials" will be my best course of action. KayAnne and I will wait to make a decision until then.
Fred, this means I won't be ablre to make a decision on the CAP Reunion until after we see Dr Te, but I will let you know what we'll be doing as soon as I can.
I can't thank any of you enough for the support, prayers and kind thoughts. The support of my family and friends has never ceased to amaze me. Fred, your friendship and letting the CAP Marines know about this has been greatly appreciated. Thanks, bro.
If you are receiving this e-mail it is because you have helped me in some way and because you are very special to me and KayAnne. Thanks so very much.
Steve
Freeman Holland
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Sir:
How might I add these pics to my name on the roster and/or the 2-4-2 roster? This was sometime in mid June or some time after, before we lost most of the guys in an ambush where they caught us. I am hoping that someone might recognize me and I can find out more about the others in the group that joined up with me later. Oddly (or happily) I still do not remember much about that time. I remember burning out the barrell of my M16, not much more. I guess I was in a fog.
Keep up the GREAT work!!! |
1st Lt Earl K. Ziegler
Sir,
My father, 1st Lt Earl K. Ziegler, served with 1st CAG in Chu Lai from June 1968 until his death 22 Jan 1969. He was billeted as the Bn Adj/Special Services officer and his CO was LtCol E.R. Hunter. He had approx. 13 years of service and was a Mustang, getting his 2nd Lt appointment after attaining the enlisted rank of SSgt. This was his 2nd tour in Vietnam. He was killed by a Marine in Bn HQ (mail room?). I have very little information regarding his passing ( and am not really inerested in details) I am writing, however, to hear from any one who might have served with him and can offer any details on him as a man and Marine. I too am a former Marine, Sgt E-5, 1981 until 1989, and have always been interested. My mother passed away last year and we are going to Golden Gate National in San Bruno to have her interned in my fathers site in February 2010 and would like to share information with family members.
Your website is now in my favorites list, and I will be regularly visiting.
I can be reached at Joseph F. Ziegler
Please pass this along to interested, knowledgeable parties.
Best regards,
Semper FI
Joseph F. Ziegler
Pfc. Larry Page My brother, PFC Larry L. Page, was killed in action in Vietnam and had a fort named after him, (Fort Page). My family only recently found out about this information after my niece found the book, The Village, by Bing West. Can you please provide me with as much information as you have about this fort and the CAP that Larry was involved in.
Thank you.
Reply To: Tammie Stiles
Hi Duffie;
Thanks for the website. I found it through Dien Cai Da U, another website.
I'm Army, Infantry, Heavy Weapons and Recon, Americal Division. We were attached to a CAP Unit [1-3-3] stationed at Phuoc Hoa 4, under the command of a Marine Sergeant Kenny Ulrich [sp?].
You guys pulled patrols,set ambushes, trained the Ruff-Puffs and we all joined hands and sang Kumbaya when the Sappers overran us [August ?, 1968].
We provided Recon and Heavy Weapons [.50s, 106s, and 4.2" Mortars]. My specialty was Fire Direction Control, plotting fire missions for the Marine patrols. We did a lot of good work together and I will never for get that.
About a week-10 days after we got overrun, a Ruff-Puff dropped a lit cigarette into a box of [flammable] mortar increments, taking out our command group, and me. The Ruff-Puff took off across the paddy headed West. He got about 100-150 meters and ran out of luck. Dead gook.
The Army classified the whole thing as an 'accident'. There were no 'hostiles' around, unless you counted the guy who took out the command group. I guess it looked better to say it was an accident rather than hostile action. Bad Press, right?
Anyway, it was hostile action. Six of us got wounded. I have feelers out for my fellow dogfaces. No luck so far. So, I'm trying to find any of brother Marines from that little slice of reality who might have been there and who could support my petition to the US Army to award me/us the Purple Heart.
I thank you in advance for your time, consideration and effort.
Again, thank you for the website. It gave me some valuable info like dates and grid coordinates. Also, it recalled LCPL Taylor, USMC, who bought it on Augst 2, 1968. He was in charge of the reactionary force going to relieve the lower compound and took a round to the back of the head right in front of me and the Corpsman, Gary Ehrenfeld.
Reply To: Rob Robinson
I served with 1/4 81's in Vietnam 1966-67. Joined my unit at Chu Lai on the China Sea, was on an Island/Peninsula called Ky Xuan. I then spent a month in a CAC Ville by the name of Gia Le. It was somewhere between Phu Bai and Hue. There was a two story French Hospital we sit up around. To the side of the hospital was a long building that was used a nurses dorm, I remember a kitchen on the end of it. We used it for a barracks. There was a Sgt. Price, Sgt Val Tulifano, Brad Bennett, Ron Baldwin, a Doc Jones at this CAC Ville. Mid May or Mid June 1966 . We lived in the village with the locals and PF's.
From there we were sent to Phu Bai, then in July 1966 sent north to Cam Lo into Helicopter Valley on Hastings and Prairie I. Spent lots of time at the Rockpile Razor back, DMZ and Dong Ha base camp.
I just wanted to report I was one of the 0341(81's) Marines that served in a CAC unit at Gia Le.
Reply To: Sgt. Paul R. Ross
Tim,
Hey brother Tim!
I am trying to find out if Sgt. Ronald Lee Black was in CAP A 6 (sorry, that's all my info) on 10 or 11 Sept 67 when he was KIA. I know the date and province, but not the unit - it may not have been CAP at all, but that's what I wrote home. He and I came from 3/26 Lima 2nd Plt.; I survived CAP (Papa 3 - 8/14/67), he did not. If you can help find out if he was in CAP or not, I'd appreciate it.
If you have any leads on where to find maps of the Papa compounds, that would be great, too. I have many pictures from Papa 3 from May, 67 thru 8/14/67 if you would be interested for the site. Thanks for your help & outstanding site. Semper Fi.
Reply to: Tom Willey
I was assigned to this CAC unit In May/June 1966, not long before 1/4 move north. I was with H&S 1/4 and was support to a rifle platoon there. My section Sgt was Val Tulifano , I am Paul R. Ross, I was a Corpral then and a Squad Leader under Tulifano. Brad Bennett was an FO. Ron Baldwin was also in 81's that was there. There was a Sgt. Price and a Sgt Cooney in charge of the rifle squads. There was a two story French hospital there with a tower on top of the hospital at the back. A nurses dorm was on the left side running long ways, the end next to the hospital had a kitchen room, we used the other end as barracks. I had a cot on the porch and slept there. I built the gun pit in the center court, not far from the dorm, a hop, ship and jump to the gun.
I recall a rice paddy near, I think to the back of the hospital. This will sound gross, but there was a condom tree at the back side of the hospital. Every one that was there would know that this was the place.
I was there. I was there when we got attached one night And VC shot at the hospital.
Sgt Price one of the Squad leader's was an American Indian decent. One tough Marine. I had high respect for him. He would bring me over lays so I could plot my H&I's and not fire into their patrol positions.
I would like to add my name and Sgt. Val Tuile's to the list.
Sincerely,
Paul R. Ross, Sr
Corporal/Squad Leader then September Sergeant Section Leader at DMZ
Tim,
I need to change the mailing address on my CAP Organization correspondence. My old address was: 4381 NW, 113th Ct., Doral, FL 33178. My new address is: 11370 NW, 82 Terrace, Doral, FL 33178. Can you take care of this for me or do I need to forward this information to someone else?
I am still trying to locate Howard Dean Martin, of CAP 3-5-2. He would have rotated home, I believe, in the spring or summer of 1970. Do you have any suggestions?
Reply To: Ronald S. Patterson
Supervisory Administrative Law Judge
U.S.Department of Health and Human Services
Office of Medicare Hearings and Appeals
Southern Field Office
100 SE 2d St., Suite 1700
Miami, Fl 33131
Hi,Tim. I have a friend SGT. John Coon 2nd CAG 67/68 who needs to find a few of his bro's. His CO was a Col. DAY in school.He is listed as a 2nd CAG member but id a non computer person and really need to connect with ANYONE who remembers him. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Reply To: Jay
Tim,
Greetings fellow Marine. Hope the following email doesn't bore you to death.
I'd sure like to locate someone from Oscar Co, 3-3-3 that was with me in the rice patties outside of Hue city on 16 June 1968. We were 6 Marines on a killer team when 3 VC walked into our ambush. They were the point for several other VC that were returning to their villages. We were on 50% alert. By the time I was wakened the 3 VC
had already passed my claymore, and I had just enough time to slide off the dike and change the selector on my M-16 to fully automatic.
The first VC stepped on my cartridge belt and his two buddies stop right behind him. When they started to aim their weapons towards the Marines to my left I opened fire at point blank range. My weapon jammed and while I was trying to fix it a grenade landed to my right. I was the only one wounded and later received the purple heart.
After the firefight ended we returned to where our extra gear was stored to re-group. I refused medical treatment and took up point again with an M-60 to hopefully re-engage the enemy in the same area. The other Marines from our CAP had the PFs with them at another location. Unknown to us they were coming down the same dike we had just left. I heard Vietnamese talking and thought for sure it was more VC and cut loose with grazing fire from the 60 towards the talking. Turned out to be our other team with the PFs running their sucks. When I heard someone speaking English, I yelled out "Americans" and sure as h--- it was the rest of our Marines. I thank God every day that no one was hit on that moon lit morning (0200 hours) 41 years ago.
Can you change my CAP unit on the website to reflect, Don Robbins, Oscar Co, 3rd CAG, 3-3-3, 1968. Maybe some one will find me.
Semper Fi,
Reply To: Don Robbins
MGySgt/USMC/RET
Security Manager, YA-03 (GS-13)
Marine Corps Installations West
Camp Pendleton, CA 92055
(760) 725-6510
Was in a CAP outfit in Dec. 66 to Nov.67--It was called Doody Hill & listed as Lima-4. Can you tell me what it was changed to and when ? I can't seam to find anything listed.
Reply to: K. Reilly
CAP Veteran Needs Help
I was in Nam 1968. I spent 3 months in a grunt unit and then volunteered for CAC CAG, or what ever.
I cant remember-I have lost my dd214 papers. After a few months I volunteered for the mobile training team. That entailed language school. I am on 70% disability from the VA for ptsd and other mental disorders. You must think that I am some what unstable. This is not true. I just need to know what I did. I can remember bits and peices but not the whole program. I can remember Hoi Anh (not sure of the spelling) as soon as the mobile training team left they were over run with one survivor. Hoi Anh was a very bad area but a very beautiful small town. I am talking about the CAG out post. The only thing I can remember is a lot of violence. I loved the Vietnamese people.
Please help me.
Reply To: Don Corpier
Hi,
I stumbled upon your website, capmarine.com, through Facebook while searching for Marine comrades to my father.
I am trying to find Marines or others who knew my father when he served in the Marines in Vietnam and eventually became a Captain in N.C.
He died years ago and all I have are photos, but I am imagining there are some people out there whom you might know that would like to share their stories with me, his daughter, for archiving for family records.
He was in the 2nd Marine Division "FMF" at Camp LeJeune, N.C. at some point - perhaps that is where he joined. He was also in Vietnam in perhaps 1965-1967 and was promoted to Captain in November 1967 in N. Carolina.
His full name is Clifford Patrick Cheney. I see a photo of him in uniform with an official Marines Corp Photo taken by D.S. Murphy, numbered 3 4 - 67, with 2nd Marine Division, FMF, Camp Lejeune, NC. 28542
Thanks so much if you can help me locate some people who knew him.
Thanks for your service to our country.
His daughter,
Reply To: Keenan A Cheney
Tim,
For years I never mentioned Vietnam to anyone, now I'm older I'm trying to find out information on a few friends. I sent off to get my military records and only thing I can find out is that I was attached to 1st CAG III MAF, nothing mentioned on what CAP team I was assign too. I know I was assigned to two different teams.
I hate to say it, but when I came back I got rid of everything that reminded me of that time. Now I would love to find out more.
Looking at the maps I think I was with 1-3-6. I hope you can help me out with this issue.
E-Mail to: James Steve "Mouse" Barton
Service number: 2460911
Date of birth 4-1-49
Service dates: April 1969 to April 1970
Please let me know if you can help me out with this problem
Thanks,
James Steve "Mouse" Barton
Hi Tim.
About 15 years ago, I was in touch with a man named Ed Green who was in Alpha, a CAP I was in after Oscar Co. was dissolved.
However, he later went to jail. I was able to communicate with him several times after by letter, but I lost his address. Are you in touch with him, and if so, could you give me his current address? I have some questions about Alpha for him.
Best,
"Reply To: F. J. Taylor
Sounds Like CAP To Me!
I have studiously avoided politics on the CAP Web Site. The following exerpt is somewhat political; however, it also shows that not all have learned the lessons from Vietnam. While we don't all agree on the current action in Iraq & Afghanistan, I think we can all agree that if we send troops into combat, we should do all we can to make sure they can succeed, and, hopefully, protect the innocents while we're at it:
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